July Meet-Up, TAM7, and the Calgary Skeptic’s Society go to Vegas

Posted by Shayla on June 29, 2009 at 10:47 am

Hey Calgary skeptics,

As I’m sure most of you know, The Amazing Meeting 7 begins in a little over a week, in fact the weekend after the first Tuesday of the month. My flight out to Vegas departs on July 7, and therefore I won’t be able to attend Skeptics in the Pub this month - I’m wondering how many people will be able to go? I’m happy to create a Facebook event for this day, and I’m hoping that if there are enough attendees, one of them will make a reservation for the group!

For those of you heading to TAM7, don’t forget to join the Canadians at TAM7 to keep track of your fellow Canadian skeptics! There is a dinner planned for Thursday night after the TAM reception at a pizza place across the street from the hotel - details are on the group page.

Also, I’m hoping we’ll have some twitter action going on while we’re there, but from the looks of it the wifi is expensive - but follow CalgarySkeptics on twitter anyways for updates!

Send me a message, reply to this thread, or email me (shayla@calgaryskeptics.com) if you are going! I’d love to form a posse of Calgary Skeptics while we’re there. See you all in LAS VEGAS!

 :D

June Skeptics in the Pub

Posted by Shayla on May 29, 2009 at 8:53 am

Hello again my skeptical friends!

See the Facebook event page here for all the details about the upcoming Skeptics in the Pub event.

What: Calgary’s monthly skeptical pub meet-up

Who: Hosted by the Calgary Skeptics Society

When: Tuesday, June 2, 2009 at 7:00pm

Where: the Rose and Crown Pub in downtown Calgary - map

Please remember that for a large group, the Rose and Crown will put us all on one bill and gratuity is automatically included - don’t forget to add the tax and 18% tip to your tab! Thanks  :)

The reservation will be under Shayla. Please RSVP so I have a rough estimate when I call to make the reservation. You can do so either in the comments or on the Facebook event. See you all there!

Dear Conspiracy Theorists: Stop Pretending You’re Skeptics!

Posted by Shayla on April 29, 2009 at 12:58 pm

One of the threads on the Calgary Skeptics forum is about 911 conspiracy theories. Michael came across the calgary911truth.org website a few months ago, and there’s been an ongoing discussion of conspiracy theories since then. Recently, Wakeup, a new member of our forum, posted a response to everyone’s comments in which he (I’m just guessing here that Wakeup is a “he”…) said he didn’t want to “argue that either side of this debate is right” – and then proceeded to make several claims for the conspiracy theorists’ side. I just wanted to take a few minutes to respond to his post, since there are several errors, especially in his definition of skepticism.

Wakeup responded to another user’s post that “education, awareness, and the willingness to face our biggest fears or uncertainties are just some of the areas we need to campaign for as skeptics, realists, factitioners” with the following statement:

This argument can go either way. The “conspiracy theorists” march under the same mandate.”

He’s partially right about this – conspiracy theorists do claim they advocate for awareness. Unfortunately the “awareness” they fight for is a false awareness. Skeptics seek the truth, not the easiest way out. Skepticism is not about defending a minority position. Just because we “defend the version of truth that is more widely agreed upon” doesn’t mean that version is wrong. Skeptics examine evidence, they consult experts, and they determine what the consensus is by talking with professionals in the field. In many cases, certainly, “the version of truth that is more widely agreed upon” by the public (for example, over half of Americans are creationists, and I would bet that the majority of people believe in at least one form of alternative medicine) is the one which the evidence refutes – in these cases we are skeptical of the claims made by the majority, despite the fact that we are outnumbered. Skepticism has nothing to do with choosing the side fewer people are on.

He goes on to say

All I want you to do, is question what you see, and pursue complete disclosure of the facts. All most of us want is for the government to stop dodging questions and obscuring the details… I just want you to ask questions, as ’skeptics’ do.

He “just want us to ask questions” – we’ve already done that. We’ve asked what the most reasonable explanation is and where the evidence points. And we drew the conclusion that the World Trade Centre disaster was indeed a conspiracy – several members of Al Qaeda conspired to hijack planes and fly them into highly populated buildings that symbolize America’s capitalism and freedom. Dozens of people were involved in the planning and execution of this event, but none of them were members of the United States Government.

Most REAL conspiracy theorists do not completely believe their own theories. They merely wish to exhaust all possibilities before accepting a story about 3000 people dying because “they hate our freedom”, when there is so much that suggests there may be more too [sic] it.

Accepting a story doesn’t mean you’re not skeptical. If it’s a story based on a consensus of legitimate expert opinions and on the available evidence, then it’s most certainly the story that should be accepted. I disagree with the statement that conspiracy theorists don’t completely believe the theories they spout – I’ve read the Calgary911Truth.org website, and visited forums with conspiracy theorists, and I have a feeling they whole-heartedly believe everything they’re saying. I’m sure there are some who shout “conspiracy!” just for the sake of it, but I think “most REAL conspiracy theorists” definitely believe what they’re saying.

What exactly is there that “suggests there may be more to it”? None the statements I’ve seen about government involvement in the September 11 disaster hold any merit – they either commit a logical fallacy or are easily proven wrong. Rather than list a bunch of them here, see the Skepdic entry on 911 Conspiracies.

Not only does Wakeup not remain neutral, he seems to be confused about what exactly skepticism is. Conspiracy theories, not just about 911 but also including the moon landing or the “New World Order” (note: that website is super credulous), are interesting in that those that call themselves “skeptics” are simply people who believe something different than what the government, or the media, or the public tells them. Believing the opposite of what those in authority say just for the sake of it is not skepticism – it’s spite. Disagreeing with someone is not at all the same thing as skepticism. Certainly, skepticism is called for with any claim the government or the media makes, but landing at the same conclusion these institutions did is not a bad thing and doesn’t make you unskeptical.

Don’t you think it’s time the 911 conspiracy theories were laid to rest?

May Skeptics in the Pub

Posted by Shayla on April 28, 2009 at 3:02 pm

You’re invited to the May Skeptics in the Pub!

Who: Skeptical Calgarians

What: Skeptical talk and drinks

When: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 at 7:00pm

Where: The Rose and Crown, 1503 4th St, SW map

RSVP in the comments or on the forum thread (Facebook event coming soon).

If you want to ensure you are invited on Facebook to every event we hold, join our Facebook group. And, last but not least, if you have Twitter you can follow the Calgary Skeptics there!

April Skeptics in the Pub

Posted by Shayla on April 3, 2009 at 3:34 pm

You’re invited to the April Skeptics in the Pub!

Who: You and all your skeptical friends!

What: Drinking Skeptically!

When: Tuesday, April 7, 2009 at 7:00pm

Where: The Rose and Crown, 1503 4th St, SW map

Why: Drinking is fun, and drinking skeptically is even better

RSVP on Facebook (but do feel free to bring people who have not RSVPed! We’d just like a rough estimate for reservation purposes.)

If you want to ensure you are invited on Facebook to every event we hold, join our Facebook group. And, last but not least, if you have Twitter you can follow the Calgary Skeptics there!